On today's episode of survival Dispatch News we're joined by Dr Jennifer stankus [Music] Today's video is brought to you by uscca Your source for education training and Self-defense liability insurance one all Right guys we're back with Dr Jennifer Stankus this woman has so many life Experiences titles jobs and so much cool Stuff going on in her life it's such a Pleasure to have you Dr Jen thanks for Joining us a doctor a lawyer an expert Witness a television producer what did I Leave out Top military times to Airborne Dang man Thank you so much for coming on with us We really really appreciate it Chris This is um really an honor for me Dr Jen And I we chat back and forth on social Media we just haven't been able to Really connect and so thank you survival Dispatch for for making this connection Right It's uh everybody wants to be part of Survival dispatch We hope I'm just joking Well thank you so much Chris has a ton Of questions for you I'm going to Interject every now and then because I Know a little bit about you as well but I'll let you kind of lead us off Chris Well actually I'd like to start with Your uh background in survival and then
Kind of dovetail that into your Experience on Surviving man where you Put some men uh twice three times your Size half your age to shame so like I Said offline I'm sure that was good for Some people's uh Eagles Yeah Just training super hard every day [Music] Why don't you just start with your Background your training in survival in Particular If an introvert growing up in Colorado And I love to do Backcountry stuff by Myself so you know I learned to climb And Mountaineer and learn how to you Know build shelters and fires and just Whatever on my own just because I Thought it was fun Um but then you know just all of my Training in the military and law Enforcement Um and again just my interests like I've Always taken a keen interest especially You know I'm not a big person I'm I'm Five foot five a hundred and twelve Hundred and fourteen pounds and um and I Always thought that it was important to Be able to take care of myself so Um when I was in law enforcement I took Special Arrest and control techniques and just Read everything I could about Street Survival and and all that so it's been
Kind of a lifelong study for me I mean that's uh that's really Interesting so how did you end up on the First season of surviving man was there Like a you know a call for people to Apply or how'd that work yeah so I was Um a member of front sight if you know What that is they're no longer in Business but the owner had sent out a Membership-wide email just saying hey if Anyone is an expert in weapons and you Know wants to be on the show and shoot And it's like you know coveted time I Want something normal ammo prices are Through the roof and I'm like you want Me to go like do pt and do crazy stuff And shoot guns and like I don't have to Pay for this Sign me up like I'll even pay so I Submitted my my uh little video and I Was in my Dr Garb in the emergency Department and I was just like hey I'm a 2A proponent and I love to blow [ __ ] up And if you'd have me on that show that Would be awesome sorry I know uh the the Reality show application process uh I've Been through that as well with that History Channel show Top Shot and there Was actually they there were a ton of People applied for it and I know they Kind of they start up with with my Situation started with a lot large group Narrowed it down narrowed it down Narrowed it down do you know how many
People actually applied to be on the First season of surviving man and how Was that process of whittling down to That to the the final competitors that You were a part of Yeah I think there were I want to say There were about 600 Um I mean it's a lot but it's not I mean it Was this is the very first show from American stories entertainment and so You know not a big name Um they're just kind of getting into the Entertainment industry at that point um They've done a lot since but um but yeah Still about 600 people and apparently Just with my background they're like we Want her Awesome awesome so as Chris mentioned Man you you kicked ass on that show you Must have been obviously you were very Physically fit what kind of training Regimen do you go through with your Physical fitness Well a couple of things so I mean I am All about Fitness I always have been I Was second in the world in BMX as a kid Um competit like I wanted to go to the Olympics and skiing like I've always Been very athletic and just it's I Remember even I was five years old and I Had dreams of going to the Olympics and I'd go out and for like a five mile run Or whatever whatever wow but um you know
I I Fitness is just a part of my life And I think it's an important important Part of survival Um you know you're only as good as your Mind and your body and survival so Um I I left a few times a week but it's Mostly body weight Um mostly body weight workouts it Doesn't take long you can do like I do This body weight workout regimen from an Ex seal trainer and I I actually got That when I found out I was on the show I was like oh man this is Seal so I Assume it's going to be something like That so I'm gonna translate them so you You know even doing like 25 minutes a Day of Body Weight Workout is amazing And then just eating right and then Staying active you know going for hikes Or runs or whatever Um so but it's pretty much a daily part Of my life yeah awesome how often do you Go to the range So that's been an issue so I split my Time between Washington State and which Is very End Nevada and Um Washington State we had a range but It was like two hours away you can't Spend four hours driving and then go to That's just not realistic and then in The rain it's just not not as much fun And restrictions on what you can do well We found a great range here in Nevada I
Can use drone to film it I can set up Any course I want but it was like closed To membership during covid so the only Range time I had for like years was a Few times out at front sight and thank God I had enough background in in Weapons and such that I did okay on Surviving man but since then it's been Great I've been doing these Firearms Fridays on my Instagram every week just A fun drill for people I'm not a pro Shooter but I just want people to get Out and be proficient if you have guns You better use them and you better be Proficient because otherwise you know Someone could get hurt and we don't want That but it's done such an internet Shout out your uh social media for our View viewers so they know where they can Follow you So yeah I appreciate that because I'm Always in Instagram jail for my firearms Fridays they can't reconcile me being a Doctor and also like like liking to Shoot guns and believing that we should Have the right to own them So it's um on Instagram it's underscore Dr underscore Jen so Dr Jen so Underscore Dr underscore j-e-n-n and if You don't put it in exactly you won't Find me because they try to hide me and Even yeah I know I I've been Shadow Banned that's crazy and even when you do Put my name in exactly I'm like the
Eighth person down like all these Because it's so weird yeah and do do you Have a YouTube channel going I do I think that's just Dr underscore Jen I'm a lot easier to find on that Okay maybe we can throw some links in There sure um awesome sorry to cut you Off I know it's important for to let People know where they can follow you And and follow us at survival dispatch As well so guns survival shooting Military background law enforcement Background how do you juggle all these All these titles and and jobs and things That you're and you're now the what what Is your official title with American Stories as a producer So this is pretty cool so you know I Never say no to a great opportunity Learning or adventure and um and that's What's kind of LED my life to be as Interesting as it has been and you know I've been practicing law and medicine For a long time and I I just I want a Bigger impact and so when I got involved With American stories and surviving man I've done two seasons now of surviving Man and then have now hosted a show Called surviving man the aftermath where We kind of break it down Um and Um And then I I started talking with the Owner uh the CEO Bob and I was like Bob
I I want to do more I want to bring more Content to people that's really helpful And educational and so he's like fine I'll make you the producer in the Military and law enforcement themed Content area Um and then I if if you guys want to Hear about it I've got a really exciting Show that we're going to be shooting Pretty soon absolutely 100 So Um so I had this idea you know that the Crime in this country is totally out of Control because of lack of Um Uh well because of our our prosecutor Situation because of the the Civil Climate but it's out of control there's There's no consequence for crime and so It's going up so people are afraid lots Of people are buying guns for the first Time which is great as long as you Practice and you know what you're doing And you use it But people don't know what to do so That's what they do they buy a gun they Feel like they're safe and you're So what I wanted to do is is do a show Where we put someone through a common Crime experience Um and this by the way I'm going to be Co-starring with Sheriff Lam which is Super exciting Sheriff lamb awesome yeah So um the two of us will co-star in this
And so we'll put people through this Scenario things will go very south as They always do we'll stop action rewind Train them up talk about things that They could have done differently ways to Avoid the situation if you can't avoid It what do you do give them provide them Tools to do that whether it's in a Firearm or some other self-defense Weapon or burner and less lethal options Something like that and then we'll Restart the action and see how they do But I'm just I'm really excited to have A bigger impact like I want this to be My legacy to help it Empower people to Live their lives feel safe no matter What environment they're in What's the television show called and When will we be able to see it But lifeline and I think we're gonna Shoot sometime this summer His production takes hopefully it'll It'll be out in the fall but I'm really Excited about it that's very exciting You mentioned Les lethal and as a former Law enforcement officer myself I'm very Familiar with a lot of that you Mentioned Berna specifically and before We started taping we we saw we saw a Logo somewhere there in in your image There you go burn a nation's cool what's Your involvement with Berna and tell us A little bit about that Well so you know burn is interesting so
I do a lot of expert witness work and I Have been involved in some pretty high Profile self-defense cases and depending On where you are regardless of whether You're right or wrong you're in deep Trouble and I didn't even know what Berna was but we have a neighbor up in Washington who is next Um army helicopter pilot big 2A guy he's Like I'm not carrying a fire he's like I'll carry firearm but my primary Self-defense weapon now is burning I'm Like what in the heck is Berna we start Talking about it I started researching It and then we bought one and then we Bought another every single car we have Has one in it and so I was like you know There are three Kingpin sponsors that I Feel like have to be in Lifeline one is Uscca or something like it yep Two is mantis X or something like it Because my great training tool yeah wait A minute it is because like mine yes Exactly my view is that if you're gonna Carry if you have a gun on you before You put that weapon on you you should at Least Drive fire a few times because I know from surviving men when you pick Up a weapon called that you haven't used It's you know you're not going to be as Good so practice you know and it doesn't It's it's free once you buy the product It's free forever and then the other one Was Berna having a less lethal option
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Made a mistake so you know we have our Developer correcting it right now but That opened up a conversation with a Bunch of other people at burn and next Thing you know Luanne you know who's in Charge of their business development Stuff ends up in touch with me and I Have a meeting with her later this Afternoon and had no idea that you were Already working with them it's so for so For our viewers bottom line is uh Gear.survivaldispatch.com you can buy uh Burn a product absolutely through Survival dispatch as well endorsed by Dr Jen stankus absolutely and I'm not paid By the way like I I will do anything for This company because full disclaimer Right yeah yeah so one of the other Things that they gave me yesterday Um just for you know coming in spending The afternoon and doing some some Social Media stuff with them is they make that Backpack that and I I should show it to You but you basically it's just a quick Deploy with one hand but what's Interesting so it's got the body armor You can quickly tie that around your Back Um this you know Velcro stuff Um but you've got your kit right there It's the only backpack that's got to get So you know you pull it over you've got Your burner there you've got your Regular handgun it's like the perfect
Bug out bag and for me because I can't Bring a weapon onto the military base Where I work I can bring that projectile Launcher and there have been a couple Times in fact there was one day we had a Crazy employee you don't get any of Those in the federal government he Um he was threatening to come back and Quote take care of things the next day And I'm like damn it I work the next day You know Like I don't want to be here so I Brought my burner with me that day but This is this is going to be my my the Bag that I carry because I I can conceal Carry have body armor I mean this is Like the perfect thing you can have like A stop to bleed kit in there you know It's just like the perfect perfect bug Out bag I'm just so excited I couldn't Believe it was a really nice gift I'm Really grateful I haven't had my hands On it yet but I've seen Um content on it looks really really Awesome maybe we'll uh be able to uh do Our own version of a review on that uh Particular bag but small world right With these relationships with the uh Weapons and less lethal and survival and Uh just really really Really cool cool stuff right well and Americans and you know you know we we uh Go ahead Jen no I was just gonna say you Know one of the other things that
Um both me and my husband are really big Into I don't you know there's this Negative connotation with the word Prepper Like why do you want like do you want Your neighbor to be someone who's got Food when there's like no food yeah Right stuff like that I mean like an EMP Comes and takes stuff out like you need Cash you know like there's just certain Things that you need anyway so we are Totally into like the the food Preparation making sure that you've got You know water food heat and and cash Money and things that you can trade for Stuff like that so I'm like all about Your your whole concept and your whole Show and I'm just really grateful to be Here Yeah I think a lot of people's Connotation of a prepper is somebody Wearing a tinfoil hat conspiracy Theorists those sort of things and uh I Mean you can call us conspiracy Theorists but we've been right pretty Much Just give me a second to back up here So speaking of emps There she is have you ever seen a Faraday bag this big that's a fair day It's the size of a hockey bag Um these guys off-grid Trek out of Ohio Sent it to us uh the idea being is that You could put a portable power station
And solar panels in it wow when you have An EMP uh you still have a way to Generate electricity afterwards you Crazy prep or you you know I'm just Going to say one thing like when stuff Hits the fan someday and there's a good Chance there's a good chance it could Right they're going to be so grateful For us in this country Because we're going to be the only ones Who have this stuff figured out you know Yeah next next time one of those Chinese Weather balloons floats over uh floats Over us and and uh Blows out our power will would be a lot Of grateful people and and the Difference too is that we'll still help Everyone Like you know Nope that's right exactly so uh Jen Where can people go to see uh surviving Me in uh Lifeline how do they get access To those yeah so super exciting so we've Been waiting for survival surviving man Season two uh I'll just give you some Teasers on that under in a second but That comes out um we have a special Watch party that you can sign up for Um at Www.american stories.tv I think it's Backslash par either party or watch Um it's if you go to American story Social media Um on Instagram you'll be able to find
It and then if you sign up to be a fan On American stories Um TV you can get a special preview next Friday or just watch it next Saturday When it comes out for for everyone and What's really cool is yeah I'm sure that A lot of your viewers are familiar with The Pursuit Channel So surviving man is this fall or this I Guess third quarter whenever that starts Um surviving man is going to be this Show right before Ted Nugent's Call of The Wild show so yeah so that's going to Be pretty cool and then I'm sure that Lifeline will will be on that as well So lots of places to watch it Um and you can stream season one now Um just on on their website so it's Pretty exciting Yeah I've met Uncle Ted a few times Um lucky got to attend some NRA National Events because of the connection that I Had that was uh on the board so uh he's An interesting character and I grew up Listening to his music so I like Ted Nugent he's pretty cool a few years ago Back when I was uh still a full-time Professional Mountain Shooting Competitor I had a podcast uh this was Like 15 years ago uh called uh Mountain Shooting talk radio and I ran into Ted At SHOT show this might must have been Back in uh I don't know I don't know how Long ago it was and I talked him into
Giving me a an audio uh uh bumper and Um oh man I wish I kept that this is Ted Nugent you're listening to mounted Shooting talk oh man this is so cool I Know I've got that somewhere very cool That's very cool well I can't I can't Guarantee Um but I've heard rumors that season Tree might involve him or his property I Don't know I don't wow you can get mad At me no one blow me up if this isn't True or if I'm wrong cool I want to know Where I can apply to be a production Assistant for for that uh season so send Me a link and I'll I'll drop my resume In there I can hold cue cards or Whatever ah it's so funny well surviving That so surviving man season one if You've seen it Um honestly I'll tell you what like I am Totally physically fit and I was I was Hoping it was going to be like Navy SEAL Hell week you know they drop you in and You're like going 24 hours a day for a Week and they were long days they're Like you know 14 16 hour days but like As a doc I'm used to this and so I was Just like whatever but this second Season the PT test was crazy and they're Like oh yeah you're gonna be in the Water swimming with alligators and like Whatever like you guys are trying to Scare me so I'll go with him I come out Of the water and I see a freaking Gator
And I'm like there's Gators in there and They're like well we told you there were You guys are trying to kill us I never Saw so much crab walking in my life as I Did on season one OMG You guys oh it should work no yeah oh my Gosh you so on the opening of Um surviving man aftermath I talk about That PT test I've been in law Enforcement military I'm a huge you know Like National World level athlete I have Never had a PT test like that wow I Can't wait to see it and that was just The start right that's just the start of The day it didn't end for another like 10 hours of all sorts of crazy stuff now It's day one so we we have a bunch of Mutual friends and connections that are Tied back to Bob cephale an American Stories TV and we sent some uh Promotions out to our email list a Couple weeks ago for American stories Um so it's a small world again but did I Hear correctly that season one the Entire season was filmed inside of some Very short period of time was it like Seven to ten days or something like that Yeah that's correct no kidding yeah same Thing same thing this year Um but this year was um just outside of Savannah Um in the swamp Yeah I think if I'm not if I'm not Mistaken aren't aren't there some teaser
Isn't there some teaser video leaking Out there somewhere on social media uh On that because I think I've seen it Oh and I'll just say like I ha I love All PT except for one thing The sealed log training I'm a little Person like this big like That was horrible and it just went on Forever hours up and down tree stands Like around I mean it was through thick For forests through the water I mean it Was just unbelievable It's awesome so in my mind the way I the Way I win and the way I take these People's butts is I'm not I'm not the Strongest person but my mind is pretty Strong and I never ever quit I I will I'll have to be dead before I quit and So in my mind like if something is Uncomfortable who cares as soon as you Stop it's gonna be over right so you Know you're in a plank and you're at 24 Minutes and you're like yeah this I Don't even think about it it's Uncomfortable because as soon as the Last person drops and you stop the pain Is done so I I think that people can Endure way way way way way more than They think they can yeah it's a lot of It's mindset isn't it Dr Jen and I'll Brag on Chris is a world champion uh uh Bench press guy I've been a professional Athlete much of my adult life as a as a Professional competitor and a lot of it
Is mindset getting your mind right you Got to have the body to go with it and The fitness but that this up here is a Big deal Huge deal yeah I saw when you were Reaching for that em D protector thing I Saw oh he's got his tickets to the gun Show for sure yeah I was like damn man He's got some arms on him And I think we're probably the three of Us around the same age and for our Viewers if you're not if you're a young Person and you're watching this and you Are not physically fit it gets a lot Harder as you get older doesn't adopted Jen I can tell him that for sure Totally totally yeah and and the other Thing that I'd say is you don't all you Need are some running shoes and your own Body to be super fit that's right that's All you need you don't need a gym There's no excuse oh well the weather's No it's just and all you need is Half an hour a day Yeah and that brings up a really Interesting point for our viewers uh you Know we are survival dispatch and there Are a lot of a lot of things it takes to Survive different circumstances but if You're if you're not physically fit to Begin with Everything gets a lot harder and uh can You give me a like a just a 30 second Elevator pitch on the the slightly
Chubby overweight guy that is into Prepping and survival and shooting and Guns and uh and um self-defense and Primitive skills but you know what would You say to somebody like that to help Them like just get over the fence and Turn their life around a little bit to Be better physically fit and more Healthy Well I can do it in one sentence chicks Dig it I like that I like that your story so Here's some irony one of our top Influencers his name is Jason Sawyer he Was a strength and conditioning coach at USC for years and also a Navy SEAL Strength and conditioning coach yeah so He so when we were discussing the Fitness side of survival with him he Said man if you want to tank your videos On survival dispatch start talking Fitness Fitness Fitness because people Will tune it out so he has a really Interesting way of working the subject Into a video on another topic and just Kind of dropping it as Pearls of Wisdom Something for people to think about what Not and Ironically enough we had not met him Before we acquired survival dispatch lo And behold he's our neighbor in the Middle of ufe nowhere in Morganton Georgia in the blue room yeah I'd love To meet that guy and so ever since you
Know we acquired survival dispatch we've Had the opportunity to spend a fair bit Of time with him his wife and my wife Have become friends and whatnot so three Weeks ago they went camping on a Friday Night with all the kids took virtually Nothing with them just like very little Stuff like his shelter was his Poncho And it wasn't a military Poncho it's Just like a you know off-the-shelf Commercial one and then the next day Himself his friends and his kids and Their kids that ranged in age from like Eight nine ten years old walked 14 miles Home in a like you know a get home Simulation and I love it he's doing an Amazing job for his kids uh him and his Pastor started this thing called the U.S Men's Academy which has aspirations of Becoming a National Organization to make Up for the shortfalls of the Boy Scouts Now because that organization has kind Of gone down the tube sort of thing Um again there's no coincidences we're All all exactly where we're supposed to Be so the fact that we would have the Opportunity to acquire survival dispatch And then lo and behold one of the top Influencers for survival dispatch lives Five minutes away from our cabin in the Blue Ridge Mountains I mean just amazing Stuff you know just getting back to the Fitness thing I agree like you don't Want to intimidate people or make them
Feel bad or anything but what I would Say is that you know there were a lot of Really good Shooters like world-class Shooters on Surviving man and as soon as You add an element of Um pretty significant fatigue or Exertion those skills go out the window If you're not fit Um and so you know part of survival and Prepping in my mind is like why wouldn't You prep your body Um to to do that 14 mile walk out and Your adventure May begin at that point You know like it's not ending at that Point it's just starting and so to Prepare yourself to be able to deal with Those conditions I think just makes Sense so yeah we discussed getting home Much more frequently than bugging out Because it's our belief that 83 of Americans live in urban environments the Other 17 who are rural areas are not Likely to bug out anywhere and the People in the city few of them have Places to bug out so if and when we're Attacked again it'll be like 9 11 They'll attack during morning or Afternoon rush hour to inflict the Maximum amount of chaos average American Works 16 miles from home so we we preach These are the things you need to have With you not just a get home bag but to Be able to put comfortable shoes on and Have you know extra pairs of socks
Because I mean you know because you've Been through military and law Enforcement training but unless somebody Serves somewhere in a theater or like Vietnam I don't know that they Understand how quickly they can be Derailed by messing their feet up their Feet are wet they've got blisters you're Done and yeah I know it's the craziest Thing like one little blister can take You out I mean it's incredible right we Have a very close friend of ours who's Been on this channel who has no idea how This happened but a couple weeks ago uh Was in so much pain that he couldn't Walk and and ended up in the ER and has An infection in his pinky toe on his Left foot and the infection started Spreading up his leg it was aggressive So they hit him with some IV antibiotics Sent him home with additional Antibiotics and the redness had subsided And they were marking his leg I'm sure As a doctor you know this like with a Felt marker to see what the regression Was and I got it this has been one of my Best friends for 25 years and I got a Text message from him earlier today They're rushing him into the emergency Surgery right now because of this Infection on his real life it sounds Like it's probably like necrotizing Fasciitis or like one of those they they Call it flesh eating back area or
Whatever but they are just really Aggressive so aggressive he had no idea How it got into his foot but he's got This like uh bulbous thing of fluid on The side of his Um toe in the side of his foot and they Had said something like they didn't want To touch it because they wanted the Antibiotics to do their thing instead of Opening it up and maybe causing it to Spread but now he's he's actually Probably in surgery right this morning So we'll see it Compares for him Absolutely yeah I mean I said that to Him earlier as well but point being is Take take your average American work 16 Miles from home and we have an EMP where We have a nuclear attack that results in An EMP their EFI vehicle is not working Their gas pumps aren't working and they Need to get home to their family and and It's kind of pretty hard to do that if You're not some element of being Physically fit yeah not everybody's got A horse in the in the backyard I see a Horse picture on your wall Do you have horses grew up with horses Yeah I love yeah Um I grew up riding I was never as good As you I don't I don't know if I could Have hit balloons that are moving around Well With a rifle or a shotgun you probably Surprised yourself I think it's like
Riding the bike we never never forget Those skills yeah exactly all right Jen Well listen we really really appreciate You coming on Survival dispatch uh Hopefully we get a chance to do it again I would love to this is this is Seriously right up my alley and and like I just I it's so important for people You're very inspirational to many people And you know I hate to be repetitive but For a female who's small stature to kick A bunch of grown man's asses on Something like surviving man I mean That's a real feather in your cap I mean Obviously everything else being a doctor Being an attorney is very impressive as Well but I'm telling you straight up you Know I'm 54 years old and I've had a Bunch of surgeries and I'm nowhere near As good a health as I should be or I Used to be in a past I don't think I Want to go head-to-head with you on Surviving man I don't think I would Well I appreciate that okay and I I do Have to say it is kind of fun for me Just because you know I mean you guys Don't have this experience but you know Being underestimated I I never I don't Say anything I just I just show them Just show them what I can do that is so Awesome yeah all right thanks again Jen And I'm sure we'll uh we'll get you back On the channel again sometime soon and Uh we'll let our friends at burn and
Hill this afternoon that we had a good Conversation with you today excellent Yeah we'll post your links so people Know where to find you guys and uh American stories and all the cool stuff That you're involved in and hope to see You again soon definitely all right guys Have a great day likewise thank you Jen Thanks [Music] [Applause]
